Curse

Lint · May 18, 2006, 10:47 AM // 10:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niosisw

Point 1: Nope, can't... he's a mo/e, unless you are saying drop the glyph?
Point 2: Nope, he would have to do Vital blessing and prot spirit.

Yes, I allready said you need to be a Mo/W if you read my post.

And maybe... Or if the Aatxes do only like 100 dmg or so, with Aura of Faith you will get healed for over 200 health.... I doupt the Aatxes will do more then 200 dmg.

Teutonic Paladin · May 18, 2006, 11:11 AM // 11:11

In my experience they hit MUCH MUCH MUCH higher than 150 sometimes as high as 200-300. They are unforgiving to those without strong armor.

Ietwat · May 18, 2006, 11:35 AM // 11:35

Me and my brother have a dual UW run Build that works with Spirit Bond and I can tell u the aaxte´s hit always more then 200 against 60 AI armor from a monk.

So we came with a solution the Smiter monk throws up Mending Holy Wrath and Retribution on the Tank monk, so that the Tank Monk will get energy from hit´s as long as he or she has Essence Bond or B. Spirit on him.

And the Smiter Monk is supposed to bring Vital Blessing and such so that the hp will be over 780 no the Tank Monk cuz with Deep wound u will get less then 60 damage over time with PS on. And that doesn't trigger Spirit Bond

With this tactic we now do UW Smite runs without the Coldfires under 20 min, but were still not comfortable with it cuz its way other than aa 55 hp and a ss/sv-er.

This we dont the smites monk has a Elite Slot open for the Coldfires and the Sec prof can be everything, were now testing what works the best against Dryder's and Coldfires.

legless_the_elf · May 18, 2006, 12:36 PM // 12:36

I have used this build to farm UW a few times (never have favor

)
All you have to do is have one guy with SB, SB, Physial resist and life attune etc and nother guy with holy wrath and ret and aura of faith
then your home free and can aggro as many as you like

Znuggle · May 18, 2006, 01:40 PM // 13:40

I dont get how you can have both 14 and 16 attribs when hte piken helmet doesnt come with + attributes? :s what am i missing?

Quantum Nirvana · May 18, 2006, 06:53 PM // 18:53

Tried a new skill set today, one that should be viable down in UW:

Mo/X Duo (not solo)

Retribution | Balthazars Spirit | Essence Bond | Vital Blessing | Spell Breaker | Protective Spirit | Spirit Bond | Blessed Signet

Casting Maintained enchants:
16 Smite, 10 Protection, 14 divine (all superiors, my 55 monk armor)

Fighting att's:
13 Smite, 8 Protection, 12 Divine (all minors)

Yeah, it's going a little back to what a 55 monk has, but with this build you can tank as many as you want and not die, as long as they are hitting above 60dmg each hit, and you aren't taking major degen.

Your health should be at about 621hp iir, and with p.s. you'll only take 62 damage. Spirit Bond is healing over 70 each time its triggered, which means you'll never have a deficit. No need for life attunement, or Aura of Faith. With two passive energy skills you shouldn't have a hard time casting p.s. and s.b when you need to, even with small groups. Worked very well against the trolls(health just stood there, didnt even move except when they couldnt do 60+dmg lol), and I even tried it out on the jade in the beginning of Ring of Fire (even with degen i was able to kill all of them before the mursaat got back to me). See what you think, I'll be trying it out in UW shortly.

EDIT: Tried this out in UW with some minor changes. I had a friend put max retribution and holy wrath on himself, and I just kept him alive. Works very well against the aatxe's but the grasping darknesses are so weak they cant trigger the spirit bond's healing, similar to the fierce avicara issue. Needless to say it was a slow death. Casting protective spirit and spirit bond proved to be not an issue as far as energy goes, but adding another skill in there like spell breaker seemed to get me worried when it came down small groups. Overall I found that it might get boring to be casting the same two spells every 8 seconds or so for more than 20 minutes. It was however more fun than going in there solo.

imisio · Jul 12, 2006, 10:17 PM // 22:17

i got a troll farming build with spirit bond and protective spirit that works even against the avicara fierces.

i will soon post the build with some pictures. but i dont have the time for it at the moment.

Mistical miss · Jul 13, 2006, 06:54 AM // 06:54

You can go secondary mesmer, for interrupts versus the evil enchant shatterers (you might be able to interrupt one and wand the other before he rends you) and pick up sympathetic visage yourself

the core of the build can then be Spirit Bond, Protective Spirit,Life Attunement,Balthazars Spirit, Interrupt, *DMG* (SoJ/Retribution/Balt Aura), Ele resistance (for the grasping darkness, they usually don't deal enough dmg), sympathetic visage.
Maybe that can do the trick, haven't tried it out myself though.

Why_Me · Jul 13, 2006, 03:30 PM // 15:30

Another option is to use air of enchant+divine spirit (divine spirit needs to be cast first, or else your skills will cost 1 energy). This allows you to use any secondary you want, recast more than one skill in the middle of battle (and you can mend the aatxe conditions), and you can have prot spirit+spirit bond up for more than 25 seconds. Would that be enough to kill the aatxes?

[EDIT]-

Quote:

And the Smiter Monk is supposed to bring Vital Blessing and such so that the hp will be over 780 no the Tank Monk cuz with Deep wound u will get less then 60 damage over time with PS on. And that doesn't trigger Spirit Bond

Yes it does, the damage for spirit bond is monitored BEFORE PS kicks in.

imisio · Jul 13, 2006, 04:09 PM // 16:09

for spirit bond you dont need to have more then 600 hp.

my build is based on monk/mesmer.

prot spirit
spirit bond
elemental resistance
blessed signet
shield of judgement
retribution
baltazar spirit
blessed aura.

smite 12 + sup rune
prot 8 + minor rune
divine 10 (before casting i put a head scalp on me with a sup divine and +1 divine, that gives a 33% longer enchantment)

the elemental resistance is to get less armor against the avicara fierce.
retribution is for the extra dmg so it speeds up things. blessed signet is a little more energy for fighting against small groups.

armor:
i didn't have my starters armor anymore and that is a pitty because we want as low armor as possible. so i am wearing now the ascalon 15 armor. but only the sandals and pants and as headpart i got the dragon mask. the big andvance of the dragon mask is that you can put a rune on it (sup smite) and you dont get more armor. on the sandals i have a sup vigor.

weapons:
at the moment a kephets refuge. but i allready got a malion shield (+45hp enchanted) and i am looking for a sword/axe with +5 energy and +20% enchantment (totem axe).

the extra health is always nice for retribution, it deals more dmg back.

this build works very good versus trolls and avicara. it will work agianst tundras to, but then watch out for knock down.
u can use it also for UW but replace SOJ for Spell Breaker and elemental resistance for zealots fire. it take some time to take out te aatxe but it works. you can take a group of 6 aatxe, but look out for interupt. and you can have energy problems.

have fun with it

brettartie · Sep 02, 2006, 12:08 AM // 00:08

i dont understand why you change your boots at the beginning of the video when you cast the last 2 enchants, can you explain?

iamthecrap · Sep 24, 2006, 11:19 PM // 23:19

can u replace anything with sb

krawluB · Sep 25, 2006, 05:56 AM // 05:56

wow, i cant really watch the video, becouse i can see only 1 frame/5 seconds.

Special_K · Sep 25, 2006, 07:54 AM // 07:54

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Originally Posted by krawluB

wow, i cant really watch the video, becouse i can see only 1 frame/5 seconds.

same here... 1 frame every 5 to 10 seconds.. i downloaded the video from both locations listed and watched both vids on 2 different computers. samething.... every other video runs perfect... use fraps to capture video next time and not "game cam".. never heard of that.. or it could be something else, i've never bother to capture video before.

Sir Bertrand · Oct 14, 2006, 07:34 PM // 19:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by brettartie

i dont understand why you change your boots at the beginning of the video when you cast the last 2 enchants, can you explain?

I think he have boots whit minor and boots whit superior smiting. He put on sup smiting while casting retribution and holy wrath, and then take minor for more hyealth.

dragonkey · Dec 27, 2006, 09:37 PM // 21:37

did soj get nerfed?

dragonkey · Dec 27, 2006, 09:38 PM // 21:38

did soj get nerfed

dragonkey · Dec 27, 2006, 09:39 PM // 21:39

did SOJ get nerfed from night fall updates?

dont feel no pain · Dec 27, 2006, 11:24 PM // 23:24

spirit bond changed ...wont work ...... 4 or above enimies taking dmg/degen and going below 60% health = scatter

no it doesn't work ><

dont feel no pain · Dec 27, 2006, 11:29 PM // 23:29

btw dead farming threads are usualy dead for a reason heh (*_*)